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English => Install & Configure jDiction => Topic started by: CarolynB on June 17, 2014, 08:47:03 pm

Title: Is this test fine?
Post by: CarolynB on June 17, 2014, 08:47:03 pm
My client has a six language site and wants me to use jDiction. I am a bit concerned as the download csv has all the table tags which I do not know how well those translate. Here is my check results.. How do I resolve the "Multiple Plugins have the same loading position (0)" or will that not matter?
My Results are:

    Library Version: 1.2.0
    Joomla Version 3.2.4 is untested.

Plugin    

    JDiction Plugin is enabled
    Languagefilter is enabled
    Multiple Plugins have the same loading position (0)

Database    

    jDiction Database Driver is selected

Language    

    Seam to be good

Module    

    Module is enabled

Common mistakes    

    At least one menu item has the language set not to ALL.
    At least one content item has the language set not to ALL.
    At least one category has the language set not to ALL.
    At least one module has the language set not to ALL.


Is it safe to send the Engish csv to the Translators to have converted into 5 other language?
Title: Re: Is this test fine?
Post by: Harald Leithner on June 18, 2014, 07:19:38 am
If you don't have a problem with menu translationn, then the plugin position is ok.

You could send the csv to a translator. But maybe you test the import so you know how to solve questions.
Title: Re: Is this test fine?
Post by: CarolynB on June 18, 2014, 05:33:12 pm
OK, thank you.
Title: Re: Is this test fine?
Post by: CarolynB on June 18, 2014, 05:40:05 pm
It doesn't seem to work. I get this error..
"1054 Unknown column 'articletext' in 'field list' SQL=UPDATE cirw6_content SET `title` = '' , `articletext` = '' , `introtext` = '' WHERE `id` = '2'"

Does anyone understand what it means?
Title: Re: Is this test fine?
Post by: Harald Leithner on June 18, 2014, 05:46:22 pm
that should not happen...

Did you tried to overwrite the default language?
Title: Re: Is this test fine?
Post by: CarolynB on June 18, 2014, 05:55:21 pm
All I did was upload the csv file I had downloaded. It didn't make it far in the uploaded when that happens.
Title: Re: Is this test fine?
Post by: Harald Leithner on June 18, 2014, 05:57:36 pm
you have to select the target language, maybe there is a problem overwriting the native language. (it seams so)
Title: Re: Is this test fine?
Post by: CarolynB on June 18, 2014, 06:00:00 pm
What I had done,  a while back, was create all the pages and menu items for the different languages, so I could just add the translated text when I got it. Should I delete all those, and start with just the English pages?.
Title: Re: Is this test fine?
Post by: CarolynB on June 18, 2014, 06:01:51 pm
Checking this, I did have it on English.
Title: Re: Is this test fine?
Post by: Harald Leithner on June 18, 2014, 06:02:09 pm
correct, you only have one language ("all") and translate it with jdiction. jdiction replaces the "default" language at database level with the translation.
Title: Re: Is this test fine?
Post by: Harald Leithner on June 18, 2014, 06:02:30 pm
ok so set the target language to another language then english.
Title: Re: Is this test fine?
Post by: CarolynB on June 18, 2014, 06:06:28 pm
Wow, yes. It says Import successfully done for 768 translations. I used the German settings. So I should be able to go ahead and send the csv to the tranlators and I can use this.
One more question. I have used a lot of tables within the articles. Will that be a problem?
Title: Re: Is this test fine?
Post by: Harald Leithner on June 18, 2014, 06:16:56 pm
< table > tags?

that will be a pain for the translators, because they will see plain html.

also you should remove all unneeded entries (duplicated language entries for example)

And you should try how it will looks like after use translated some articles.
Title: Re: Is this test fine?
Post by: CarolynB on June 18, 2014, 06:18:33 pm
I did think it will be a pain for the translator. If they translate a table tag, it will screw things up.
Title: Re: Is this test fine?
Post by: Harald Leithner on June 18, 2014, 06:37:10 pm
thats the problem with html, there is professional translation software that could use xliff and can handle html tags.
Title: Re: Is this test fine?
Post by: CarolynB on June 18, 2014, 08:34:18 pm
They want to go ahead and send in the csv file to see what happens. So right now I am removing all duplicate text and faux text from all those holding pages I created.
Title: Re: Is this test fine?
Post by: CarolynB on June 18, 2014, 08:42:11 pm
Harald, thank you for your help!
Title: Re: Is this test fine?
Post by: CarolynB on June 19, 2014, 05:01:39 pm
Harald, when you say I should remove all unneeded entries (duplicated language entries for example). I should just delete all those holding pages I made all together, as they have English menus and page titles?
Title: Re: Is this test fine?
Post by: Harald Leithner on June 19, 2014, 05:35:05 pm
You told me that you have created menu entries for all languages for example:

Home in
* English
* German
* hungary

News in
* English
* German
* Hungary

and so on

if this is true, you only need the english version and you have to switch the language from English to All

so you have

Home in
* ALL

News in
* ALL

the same thing for content languages, also you have only one home entry, not one for each language (Joomla default way)
Title: Re: Is this test fine?
Post by: Harald Leithner on June 19, 2014, 05:36:21 pm
You should really try to understand jdiction before you do anything.

It translates "all" textfields in the translated language, without having multiple content articles.
Title: Re: Is this test fine?
Post by: CarolynB on June 19, 2014, 05:56:05 pm
Yes, I agree. I should learn jDiction more thoroughly. I don't think the documentation goes into that, hopefully I can understand all this better with reading through the forum.
Title: Re: Is this test fine?
Post by: CarolynB on June 19, 2014, 05:59:02 pm
I will remove all the other language pages, only have the one language English and then change that language to all.
Title: Re: Is this test fine?
Post by: Harald Leithner on June 19, 2014, 06:40:58 pm
correct
Title: Re: Is this test fine?
Post by: CarolynB on June 19, 2014, 06:46:30 pm
I looked at JoomlaFish, and that plugin, does the translating it's self. Is that what jDiction does?  That is pretty amazing.
I am sending the downloaded csv to a professional translator and then importing it back after it has been run through the translators.
Title: Re: Is this test fine?
Post by: Harald Leithner on June 19, 2014, 07:45:31 pm
jdiction does the same as joomfish, thats correct.

after importing the csv the site should be translated.
Title: Re: Is this test fine?
Post by: CarolynB on June 19, 2014, 07:49:44 pm
Sorry for all the questions Harald. But thank you for being so helpful.
Title: Re: Is this test fine?
Post by: Harald Leithner on June 19, 2014, 07:50:37 pm
No problem.